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My first groundcloth

Tuesday, August 24th, 2010

I’m just past the year anniversary in my new house and have finally purchased my first piece of terrain. I was out on a relaxing Saturday shopping expedition and asked the wife to assist me in getting my groundcloth. We visited a fabric store and I finally settled on a couple metres of light green sweat pant material. One side of the fabric is smooth, the other side slightly fuzzy. The fuzzy side is the side I’ll be using.

When I had a chance I spread it over my gaming table to see how it looked. I even set out the miniatures I had painted for Battle of Five Armies, the 10mm scale Games Workshop game featuring the battle at the end of The Hobbit. I imagine once the movie is made I’ll have an easier time explaining it to people. Meanwhile both sides of the game have been painted for years yet I never played it. First I lacked the appropriately sized table, then I didn’t have a green cloth to play it on. Now that I’ve bought this cloth I hope to get a game in sometime soon, and when I do I will take pictures.

My plan with the cloth is to let it slowly accrue shedded flock and bits of Woodland Scenics coarse turf. To start it along I scattered a bunch of flock over the cloth then rolled it up. It needs a 1×1 piece of lumber to roll inside it so that I can store it upright, and I’m afraid when I do unroll it I’ll find it’s home to an infestation of earwigs, but at least I’m on my way. Next step, building some terrain.

Tyler

I Think I Found My Terrain

Tuesday, November 3rd, 2009

While there’s still many a miniature to paint before I start working on terrain it doesn’t hurt to research and think about what I want to achieve. I’ve talked about some of my goals before, but as is normal for the planning stage goals change. Heck, I’ve gone from ground-cloth to terrain tiles and have now swung back to ground-cloth. No absolutes this time, this is just what I’m currently planning.

The goals, for those that don’t want to read back-posts, are simple. I want it to look good. I want it to be stored on shelves when not in use. I want it to be flexible enough to represent a variety of battlefields and periods without being generic. I want to be able to represent the gullies of Crysler’s Farm and the tight farm fields of Normandy.

One table that caught my eye was found on Lord Ashram’s blog. Not only does he have a great table he tends towards the smaller scales, a policy I am also flip-flopping on. Hmm, absolutes are inconvenient.

Lord Ashram's House of War
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His wargame room, sadly decommissioned from lack of use, features as the main image for the site. Closer looks show how attractive his table is. Take your time, I’ll wait. Beautiful, isn’t it. It features rolling terrain, free-standing pin-trees all in an attractive and functional table.

Unfortunately the table is out of the question for me. Even if I could somehow convince the wife to let me take over the entire basement I still need tables for boardgaming and roleplaying. This leaves me with a bit of a problem. Lord Ashram’s table is functional in that an inner frame of wood snugs down the felt covering of the table. This won’t be possible for me, so I will have to find another way to secure the felt. One option is to simply tuck it under my surface.

At my request Lord Ashram sent me a couple of links which specifically describes how he forms the bulk of the table out of pink insulation foam and felt. The first talks about the inner frame the snugs down the felt, the second about building the contours from foam and covers that with felt before finishing with flock, pin-trees and scenery. I’d like to know more about the colours of flock and type of felt he uses. At my local club most felt cloths are flat colours that stick out like a sore thumb. Many have bits of flock stuck to them, but they look like bits of foam stuck to cloth rather than bushes on grass. Lord Ashram’s gives the look I want and I’d love to know his secret.

There are other things I’ll be doing differently. Instead of pink foam I’ll be using the style of foam floor mats I was originally thinking of flocking to form terrain tiles. My inlaws bought a few packs for my daughter and I don’t think they’ll work well as terrain boards. For one thing, they’re not 2′x2′ exactly, the teeth don’t form a perfect seam and I’m concerned about flock rubbing off the edges. On the other hand they should make an excellent foam underlay for pin trees. They are thinner than the pink insulation commonly available in Canada, are easier to bring home from the store, I assume are less of a mess to cut and should stand up to the wear and tear of setting up multiple layouts.

The next installment of my hobby budget is now earmarked for the search for appropriate felt. I have a feeling that I’m going to have to look around for a while before I find the perfect colour. I may even have to carry a small jar of flock in my pocket to try to match the colour.

After that, a big shaker of Woodland Scenics flock, 48ft2 of foam tiles and strips of peel-and-stick velcro hooks. I plan to stick the velcro to the foam to help prevent the felt from wrinkling and moving. Still a ways off, but that’s the current, emphasis on current, plan.

Tyler

Flexible Roads

Monday, October 19th, 2009

Now that I have a gaming table I’ve been thinking hard about how I wanted to build my terrain. I’ve read some articles on Seafoam trees from Antenociti and just found this post on flexible roads. The same technique should also serve for plowed fields, boggy ground and any other flat surface.

Tyler

YES!!!!

Sunday, October 4th, 2009

I might even say, “Oh Hells yes!” This is what I’ve been looking for. I’d thought of it, I’d considered it, but until I saw it done I wasn’t sure. Now I am sure.

My new terrain
New foam terrain tiles from The Terrain Guy

This is how I’m going to build my terrain. No cloth to wrinkle, no foam insulation to chip or make a mess cutting. No warping, no bad cuts. Also, trees can have pins inserted into their bases and be plugged directly into the board. Heaven, this is perfect for what I want and I will start working on this come March when I finish my WWII project.

Now, while I could just buy these tiles from The Terrain Guy I won’t. For one, I want to be able to match the flock used to my bases, both miniatures and terrain pieces. Woodland Scenics’ flock is cheap and allows me to match my current basing. However, I tip my hat to The Terrain Guy for the inspiration. His groundcloths also look excellent and had previously tempted me, though I decided against them for the same reason.

No pictures but my WWII Canadians are done except for a matt varnish and some flocking on the base. I remembered at the last minute that I wanted to paint them as a specific regiment so there was a bit of scrambling while I researched what shoulder flashes the Black Watch (Royal Highland Regiment) of Canada wore.

Tyler

More Terrain Thoughts

Tuesday, August 25th, 2009

The more I think about how I’m going to build terrain the clearer the ideas get in my head. I am 100% going with a good ground cloth. Theterrainguy.com has a good green mat that’s easily affordable and looks good. My main concern is matching any future terrain to the flocking he uses. You can build the most detailed, realistic hills and forests in the history of miniature wargaming, but if it doesn’t match the table it looks terrible. The same goes for a good table with foam hills painted a satin green. It just doesn’t work.

Which leaves me with making my own mat. It’s do-able and I have some ideas. I’ll have to make a small mat as a test to make sure my theories work, but I’m confident that it will. I want to take a canvas sheet and sew it to some heavy felt. This will be a bit of a pain, but potentially pay huge dividends. The canvas side will be sprayed with a rubberized paint and flocked in a mix of green and brown. Theterrainguy advertises that his mats don’t ever shed flock due to his rubberized paint. I doubt he’s formulated the paint, more likely he’s come up with a technique using available materials and sells the finished product. This way I’ll use flock in colours that I have available and not have to worry about matching.

The subsurface of my table will be formed from insulation foam with velcro tape. Any hills will also be covered in velcro tape. I don’t think I need to cover the entire surface, just strategically place self-stick strips. This will make sure the mat follows the contours of the foam underneath. I like this because I can create truly rolling terrain. I can even cut a hill in that specific shape I need, stick on some velcro and use it right away.

Trees would be Woodland Scenics but with the bases on a canvas and latex surface so I can just plug the trees in during play, removing them for storage. Roads and rivers would use a similar technique for the wood bases. I saw this technique a long time ago and think it would work well to adhere to a rolling table.

With all those wonderful plans I think that I may end up with hills on cloth, instead of underneath. For some games I could see making some rolling terrain with wadded-up towels under the cloth for Napoleonics or 6mm. I’m just afraid that the soft surface will make it impossible for singly-based 28mm metal figures. I can still dream.

Tyler

Terrain

Thursday, June 11th, 2009

In 21 days I’ll have a house, a dedicated painting area and room to set up a large 4x6ft, or larger, table. This means that I can now, after many years of resisting, start thinking about terrain.

In my current dwelling, a 650 sqft apartment, there just isn’t room to store a collection of terrain. I played at it for a while. I had a few hills, a few trees and a couple of bits and bobs. In a pinch, it worked. However, it just wasn’t good enough and what little there was took up way too much space. Living in a small space teaches you to prioritize and really think about what’s important and what is an unnecessary indulgence. I hope I remember what I learned in the new place. I still don’t have unlimited space and don’t want to abuse what I do have.

Two things make wargames look as good as they do, painted miniatures and quality terrain. There is an undeniable awe-factor to the beautiful spreads to be seen in magazines, online, or for the very lucky, at conventions or a friend’s basement. If you have one in your own basement you don’t need to hear my theories on what makes a good terrain setup, because you already know. Please, any hints, advice, or links would be well appreciated in the comments section. I am still in the planning stage so will listen to any suggestions, even if they seem to contradict what I’m about to say.

The first stage of planning is to figure out what my needs, wants and limitations are. I will have a largish room for painting, modeling and storage. Games will be played in an adjacent room, so all pieces must fit through a standard door. I want everything to fit on a shelf or in a box on a shelf. I’m not looking to spend a lot of money, but don’t mind investing over time. I also don’t want to spend a long time getting something playable going.

As for my wants. Most importantly, I want the terrain to look good. I spend a lot of time painting even rank and file troops and I don’t want them to be swallowed by a mis-matched and scruffy set of scenery. Next on my list of important wants is that I want the terrain to be practical. No sand-tables or model-railway layouts. I don’t, however, mind crafting support pieces that will prop-up top-heavy miniatures on slanted surfaces. Finally, I want it to be versatile. I wouldn’t mind a fully sculpted set of terrain, at least as far as hills, roads and rivers go, as long as it can be packed up and I have enough storage for a couple of sets. I don’t need a 2″ hex set that will allow me to re-create any battlefield imaginable.

Another important consideration is time and money. In a perfect world I would have a good looking, workable setup to start with, followed with a slowly collected advanced setup. If my perfect terrain setup takes a couple of years to build, so be it, as long as I have something that looks good in the meantime.

There’s no need to re-invent the wheel and there are a few terrain concepts that I’ve seen elsewhere that really appeal to me. I really like rolling terrain, whether from a good hex-based modular setup or a good groundcloth covering filler for hills. If I stuck with my original plan from way back in time where I only gamed in 6-10mm, just painting 28mm for fun (curse you David Imrie and your beautifully paint 28mm units) a good set of rolling terrain would look wonderful and the small miniatures would have no problem staying upright compared to their top-heavy 28mm bigger brothers.

I also like when forests are created by placing individually based trees or clumps of trees on a dark piece of cloth so that troops can move through the forest easily by pushing the trees around while the cloth clearly shows where the forest begins and ends. The same concept can be used for all manner of dense terrain such as rock-fields, heavy brush, bog and fields, where whatever crops are present as based in squares to be removed as troops pass through.

There are also some things I’d really like to avoid. My biggest pet peeve in terrain setups is when hills don’t match the ground either texturally or in colouration. The same goes for the bases of trees and other features where the ground should match but obviously doesn’t. If you are flocking your ground it is an easy thing to flock the hills with the same material. On the other hand, a groundcloth can be hard to match with flock. Even when gamers sprinkle flock and clump foliage over their mats it still doesn’t look right.

I also don’t like felt. Unless it is painted the solid colour stands out. Unless it is re-textured, it always looks like felt. Finally, the edges are thick and often curl, creating an unsightly transition between felt and table. If anyone has suggestions on how to deal with these problems I’d love to hear them. As I already mentioned, I like loose trees on something like felt or cloth as a functional piece of terrain. It just doesn’t always look the best.

I was out tonight watching some games of Warmachine/Hordes at the local store. There’s a decent amount of terrain for 40K, but the players were needing very specific terrain for the scenario. The players were forced to improvise with paper, napkins, poker chips and masking tape. While it look as good as it sounds the masking tape gave me a good idea. Mark the positions of terrain with masking tape, much like an actor’s marks on set. Just lay down an X centered under a piece of terrain so that if it is moved it can easily be replaced in the same position.

I have some rather poor pictures taken on my cellphone from tonight which I will post up the my next blog entry. Until then.

Tyler

 



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